What actually occurs in our minds when we use language with the intention of meaning something by it? What is the relation subsisting between thoughts, words, or sentences, and that which they refer to or mean? What relation must one fact (such as a sentence) have to another in order to be capable of being a symbol for that other? Using sentences so as to convey truth rather than falsehood?
There is a program on BBC Radio 4 entitled A Point of View which features the view of a variety of people in the public sphere. I think it might be worth a listen to this podcast at:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001xfxk
It's only 9 minutes. You may haver to register and sign in to the BBC iPlayer to listen to the program - assuming you can get the BBC on line in the US
John
Nicholas Gray (born 17 April 1948) is an English political philosopher and
author with interests in analytic philosophy, the history of ideas, and
philosophical pessimism. He retired in 2008 as School Professor of European
Thought at the London School of Economics and Political Science.
There appears to be an outcry against
smart phones. In particular ‘parents’ are worried about the effects of mobile
phone usage by children and teenagers. On a more political business level, the
United States Government is suing Apple in an antitrust iPhone monopoly lawsuit.
It is claiming that the company has illegally prevented competition by
restricting access to its software and hardware. “Apple has maintained its power
not because of its superiority, but because of its unlawful exclusionary behaviour”
according to US attorney general Merrick Garland.
So on the one hand, excessive and
addictive mobile phone usage is causing deep psychological and behavioural
problems in children and teens, and on the other, exclusivity by one
manufacturer is restricting other companies from greater competition and
proliferation of mobile phones.
Indeed, the usage of mobile
phones has dramatically changed a lot of human behaviour and social
interaction. The increasing technical capability of mobile phones, from simple phones
to include voice messaging, then text messaging and on to internet connectivity
and a variety of video connections (face time, WhatsApp etc..) has indeed been
a technical revolution which has dramatically changed social interaction. The drive
to combine computer innovation with personal communication and enhanced capabilities
has been relentless.
Before any of this got going, I
can recall reading the ‘funny papers’ and marvelling at Dick Tracy’s two way
wrist radio which began in 1946. Now, we
have the smart watch which seems to be an even more compact personal computer.
The implanted chip may well be on the verge of making us all cyborgs.
So where do we go from here? There
is no doubt that the addictive effects of the smart phone are causing
significant disruption and changes in our behaviour, and not just in children
and teens. Sleep patterns and other aspects of our behaviour have been
modified. How did we manage before the proliferation of mobiles? It takes an effort
to remember. The telephone box or kiosk in stores, on the street, at airports
and railway stations were prolific. The dial was eventually changed to push
button and the method of payment and connection was simplified. Can you
remember “Push button B” or was it A? Some people could somehow tap the cradle buttons
and get connected for free. All very different now.
As to meeting up with friends, arrangements
were made in advance or one just turned up. It was a more fluid and clearly
more interactive approach to relationships. One spent more time with friends and
relations in person, out of necessity and circumstance. Of course one could
spend a lot of time on long phone calls, but that was more to do with distance
and with close friends and family. It was also in addition to personal contact.
The telephone was usually on a
table in the hall. The long lead, the extension and multiple phones around the
flat or house came along for convenience and increased usage. So far as
businesses were concerned the installations of multiple lines and switch boards
were introduced. There were many operators and an information service along
with telephone directories galore. So much paraphernalia and many people were
involved with telephones. When one called one always spoke to a person. It took
a while before the answerphone was introduced but one would generally speak to
a living being. On the whole, the telephone industry employed a lot of people
and became widespread multinational public as well as private companies. In any event it was all people. First and
foremost we interacted with people.
Much has changed. Now any interaction
with organisations is met with interrogation and instruction by a voice telling
us what number to tap, or what to say, with advice to go on line in the first
place. The website should be the first port of call with its list of frequently
asked questions, none of which are the one you want to ask. Also one no longer
taps buttons, one speaks or swipes across an image. The style and method of interaction
has dramatically changed.The days when
people walking down the street, talking to themselves and gesticulating, might be
considered in need of help, have become an everyday fact of life. One does have
to admire the dexterity and skill which some people - generally the young -
demonstrate when texting. Of course the language we use has significantly
change. When did access and impact or text become a verb?
One used to have access to something or make an impact on something or someone
and write a text or send a message. We now access, impact and text all over the
place.
In any event, people being
born into this world have an entirely different perspective and approach. Much
of it seems to be great cause for concern. Children are apparently becoming
more isolated and perhaps actually less communicative despite the ease with
which they can communicate through their smart phones. They are also prone to
be influenced in a negative way by the myriad of stuff that comes through to
them because so much of it is crap and deeply worrying. Sadly, the scams,
bullying and scatological material is as prolific as the very valuable
information that is also available on the net. Unfortunately, the sad character
of a great number of human beings has led to the creation of the dark web and
hacking. All of this has given great cause for concern.
Controlling and policing the internet
is extremely problematic. Blocking and editing material is far more difficult
that one can imagine. The difficulty of using technology to control technology
has become apparent. To attempt to ban and control the use of technology in any
way is equally problematic. Making it illegal for children to have smart phones
is not a solution. Because of the rather sad nature of our society and for matters
of safety, for a child to be able to contact a parent or call for help in an
emergency is perhaps something of a necessity.
The tragedy is that the use of
the internet has become a weapon in the hands of some people. One finds oneself
thinking about it as one does about the use of guns in the United States.In the absence of being able to ban guns,
because of a constitutional amendment, many citizens speak of “responsible gun
ownership”. It is only a matter of teaching people, and children in particular,how to look after guns and use them ‘responsibly’.
What on earth does that mean?
Should we now be speaking of
teaching responsible use of the internet in the hope that the phishing and
other forms of scamming and negative social engineering will disappear? How far
can one legislate and criminalise internet activity without massive infringements
of civil liberties and damaging political social engineering as well. I feel
for the parents whose anxiety over their children’s stress and anxiety
apparently brought about by the proliferation of smartphones, is overwhelming. I
heard a mother this morning, on radio 4’s Today program, seeking to find a way
forward and trying to set up a group or lobby of parents to find a solution. It
only adds to one’s own stress and anxiety.
I confess I spend a lot of time
on the internet. I enjoy the stuff I find surfing around the web. It keeps my
80+ year old brain engaged. It can be very helpful as well as deeply
frustrating when dealing with officialdom; but on the whole, it’s a great invention,
despite the number of scams and chicanery all over the place. One can be alert
to these things. As an instance in point, when you get an email informing you
that a package has failed to be delivered and you are not expecting any such
package, how did the delivery firm, you’ve probably never heard of, know your
particular email address? Not difficult to work out it’s for the bin. Yes there
is a lot of it, and of great concern, but there is so much more to enjoy and to
share.
I do not know what the solution
is. That education should make the difference is a given, but education, like stiff
sentencing for deterrence, has made little difference in world affairs. The
problems in Middle Europe, the Middle and Far East, and the African continent
are all conducted, discussed and debated by educated people who cannot seem to
find common ground and closure of hostilities. It is not so much that one must
make children aware and to beware of scams and chicanery, one must make
children not want to become mendacious scammers, thugs and bullies. With the
likes of Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and, yes, Boris Johnson and others, so
easy to spout lies and give voice to delusions, is it any wonder that some
think it’s ok to behave in that way.
But if you want a bit of diversion
and cultural education in the artistry of writers Billy Wilder and Charles
Brackett, director Mitchell Leisen, producer Arthur Hornblow Jr under the
banner of Paramount Pictures go to this site: https://ok.ru/video/3084433033961
Called Midnight, it was
released in 1939, the same year as Gone With The Wind and Wizard of
Oz to name but two in that extraordinary year which took the world into
quite another era from which I believe we are still recovering. Anyway it’s
worth an hour and a half of your time. You won’t regret it. You’ll like the
acting as well.
I sometimes wonder about the
process of thinking in the United States of America. In particular the thinking
related to the prosecution of Mr Trump and a number of co-defendants.
In the indictment by the state
of Georgia, the state wrote: “Trump and the other defendants charged in this
indictment refused to accept that Trump lost, and they knowingly and wilfully
joined a conspiracy to unlawfully change the outcome of the election in favour
of Trump. That conspiracy contained a common plan and purpose to commit two or
more acts of racketeering activity.”
The group, the state charges,
“constituted a criminal organization whose members and associates engaged in
various related criminal activities including, but not limited to, false
statements and writings, impersonating a public officer, forgery, filing false
documents, influencing witnesses, computer theft, computer trespass, computer
invasion of privacy, conspiracy to defraud the state, acts involving theft, and
perjury”
Part of the evidence against him
and his co-defendants revolves around and incident on the 2nd January
2021, when in a recorded telephone call, Mr Trump asked Brad Reffensperger, a
Republican serving as Georgia’s top election official, to overturn the election
by stating “All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which
is one more than we have because we won the state”. Mr Raffensperger refused.
The Fulton County District Attorney,
Fani Willis, prosecuting the case, has already obtained convictions of some of
the co-defendants in the case who have pleaded guilty to some charges. Scott
Hall, Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis and Kenneth Chesebro have all made plea deals
with the prosecution..
We have had a hearing for the
last few weeks over the suitability of the Ms Willis to continue prosecuting the
case because of a relationship with another prosecuting lawyer involved in the
case. There in nothing about this relationship that has anything to do with the
evidence against the defendants. It is solely an attack on the character of the
individuals concerned with the prosecution and NOTHING to do with the evidence
against the defendants. I repeat NOTHING to do with the case against the
defendants.
The Judge, Scott McAfee,
overseeing the case, has been listening to ridiculous evidence concerning Ms
Willis and has now stated that there was an “appearance of impropriety” and
that either Ms Willis or Mr Wade (the other prosecutor) should leave the case
to resolve that. The claim was that their behaviour had compromised the integrity
of the case. The judge disagreed yet still went on about appearances. In what
way? As stated before, four defendants have pleaded guilty without Ms Willis
and Mr Wade’s affair causing any distraction or loss of integrity.
The insanity of the claim is overwhelmingly
obvious to anyone reading about the case or listening to this charade playing out.
The defence lawyers had argued that Ms Willis should be disqualified because
her relationship with Mr Wade, whom she had hired, had compromised the
integrity of the case. How a personal relationship has anything to do with the
case against the defendants is a mystery. What has a personal relationship got to do with the evidence against the defendants?In what way does an affair between Ms Willis
and Mr Wade affect examination of the evidence against the defendants for conspiring
to commit acts of racketeering in Fulton County, in the State of Georgia? I repeat myself as I am baffled.
If there is any impropriety, it
is allowing the defence to even have a hearing about their contention that it
does. The failure of the Judge to take a firm hand and give short shrift to the
hypocrisy of the defence’s proposition makes one very concerned about his
ability to conduct a trial where the defence will do anything to try to divert
attention from the facts in evidence. Mt Trump and his co-defendants behaved
like gangsters and are continuing to do so at every opportunity. It is so
glaringly obvious to the rest of the world, yet, apparently not to the citizens
of the United States of America, and worryingly not to the judiciary either.
When are the courts going to actually take serious decisive action against the
chicanery of Trump and Co.?
“I would have thought
the best thing to stop the dinghies would be to supply safer transportation
across the channel, straight to an airport, show them the Welcome to Rwanda
Brochures and send them on their way with a cash bonus of £20,000 to help them
get settled once they arrive. Better yet, just fly them straight from the
nearest airport in France.”
We now have the following report from BBC News by reporter
Kate Whannel, 13 March 2024:
”UK to pay failed asylum seekers to move to Rwanda under new
scheme:
Failed asylum seekers are being offered up to £3000 to move
to Rwanda under a new voluntary scheme. The plan, first reported by The Times,
is understood to be a variation of an existing voluntary returns scheme, where
failed asylum seekers receive cash to return to their home country.”
So where are we on the question
of deterrence? The mixed signals presented by the variety of strategies to implement
the Government’s Rwanda scheme are bewildering. Does anyone in the Home Office
or, indeed, in the entire executive government of the United Kingdom, have any
idea of what they are doing?
David Neal, who was serving as
independent inspector of borders and immigration from March 2021 was fired from
the position last month, and has yet to be replaced. His view of the department
has been less than complimentary. He is quoted as saying immigration failures
went to the top. The Home Office is dysfunctional and in urgent need of
reform, the recently sacked independent borders inspector has told the BBC’s
Today Podcast.
I would go further and suggest
that the entire government is dysfunctional and in urgent need of reform. I do
not understand what the Prime Minister is hoping will happen between now and the
formal end of the current Parliament on the 17th December 2024. Allowing the 25 working days to prepare for
the election, it must be held on the 28th January 2025, but surely
it should be held within this calendar year. To continue to drag things out as if
their legislative program had any hope of long term validity is delusional in
the extreme and decidedly counterproductive and injurious to the nation as a whole.
This conceited, selfish self-serving clinging on to power is an embarrassment
of colossal magnitude.
The present conservative party’s
machinations over the last 13+ years have weakened and destroyed the character of
the United Kingdom. They have produced a self-centred egotistical society with
serious economic and cultural divisions, more prone to dishonesty and violence
then ever, through their austerity measures and failure to maintain the public
services essential to the well-being of a modern nation. National Health and
Education have been reduced to a shambles. The damage inflicted has been so
deep that any new government, no matter what their political persuasion, will
have an almost impossible task of recovering and remedying the situation. I say
‘almost’ out of some vestige of hope, as I cannot be so thoroughly pessimistic.
The very wealthy in any country can
do what they like and go where they please without any worry. There is also a comfortable
middle class that, at the moment, can carry on and lead reasonable normal
lives, but not without some anxiety that their security could come crashing
down. The bulk of the population is struggling, although it might not appear so
on the surface. That state of affairs seems to apply to most of the developed democratic
nations. It is certainly the case in the United Kingdom. I may be wrong and, if
so, I am willing to be corrected.
As to the United States I no
longer have any idea. The political landscape can only be described by reference
to the Grand Canyon, the divisions are so deep. The current tendency to idolise
and support a psychotic demagogue, despite his overt criminality, pending
convictions and overwhelming unsuitability to hold any office, is staggering.
It will be an end of the great experiment of 1776 and after 248 year it will
perish from the earth. What is so sad is that it will take a lot of the rest of
the world’s democracies with it.
As you can tell I am not in a particularly
happy frame of mind this morning. I will go and have a nice lunch to cheer
myself up. Thankfully there is still a kitchen to escape to.
Celia and I recently went to the
National Theatre to see Dear Octopus, a play by the novelist and
playwright Dodie Smith, which was written in 1938 and opened in London at the
Queens’ Theatre, on the 14th September 1938.In her book, Dear
Dodie: The Life of Dodie Smith (1996) Valerie Grove comments:
“The real first night, at the Queens Theatre on 14 September
1938, began gloomily. The crisis in Czechoslovakia was on everyone's mind.
During the first half, the house was subdued, faces grave and laughs few. It
seemed to have become dull. Then, in the first interval, a dramatic deus ex
machina, Charles Morgan, arrived from The Times with news, which
spread like wildfire through the theatre, that Neville Chamberlain was flying
to meet Hitler at Berchtesgaden. It was as if the whole audience breathed
a sigh of relief. And from then on the play went superbly, and built to a
magnificent reception."
The play opened at a time the
world was in turmoil and so it is now.There is a passage in the play which has particularly stayed with me. It
is a dialogue between Charles and his sister-in-law Belle, who at one time had
feelings for Charles. It comes in Act II, half way through scene three:
BELLE.
You've never written your
book Charles, or gone into Parliament.
All the things you planned
as a boy
CHARLES.
I've never done any of
them.
BELLE.
You would have done if
you'd married me.
CHARLES
I wonder. You women are
much too fond of fancying you can make geniuses of men.
And anyway, there are far
too many books written and far, far too many people in Parliament.
BELLE.
Don't pretend Charles. You
had great gifts.
CHARLES.
Not really, Belle. You
see, when I came to have a little leisure to explore the minds of other men, I
found that everything I wanted to say had been said by someone else. I was
always expecting to get some epoch-making new idea, but I never did. I think I
might have had a shot, at politics—but there were so many far more important
things to do.
BELLE.
What things?
(The dance music stops. Talk and clapping can be
heard.)
CHARLES.
Surely you have realized
that any house that contains Dora also contains a number of Little Jobs? You would
be surprised, for instance, what a very large number of shelves I have put up
and an almost equally large number 1 have taken down. (He walks down c.) Then
there have been children to play with, dogs to take walks, gardens to plan,
neighbours to visit.
BELLE.
And you call these things important?
CHARLES.
I do indeed. I call the
sum-total of any man's happiness important.
BELLE.
Have you been happy, Charles
CHARLES
So happy that I am
sometimes tempted to erect a statue to myself. I should like people to be
reminded that happiness isn't quite obsolete. (He goes back to BELLE.) Have you been happy, Belle?
BELLE.
That's rather a cruel
question.
The exchange is very much of its time. Indeed it is very
similar to the sort of emotion and thinking taken up by Noel Coward in This
Happy Breed written in 1939, again written during a world at war. The idea
that the family is paramount. It is a toast to the family, “To the
family—that dear octopus from whose tentacles we never quite escape, nor, in
our inmost hearts, ever quite wish to."
What strikes me most however,
is the phrase “You’ve never written your book or gone into Parliament. All
those things you planned as a boy”. How
many of us have stumbled over this thought? Most of the people I know must have
had the notion, although I can think of a number of friends who have at least
done the writing, and one or two who have dipped into the pond of public
office. Having done neither, I greatly admire those who have.
During a particular discussion
at a friend’s house, over dinner. I was asked by the host “If you had been Prime
Minister of Israel on the 7th October, what would you have done?”.My first inner thought was, if I was prime
minister anywhere at this particular time, what would I do? It is an easy question to ask.
Indeed, how often have we heard journalists ask opposition politicians during
an interview “What would you do?”. There is never an easy answer. I like to
think, that if I had been Prime Minister of Israel, then October 7th
would never have happened and there would be peace in the middle east.
Nonetheless, we have what we
have. Would my response have been different from Mr Netanyahu? Again, I like to
think so, but the emotions of the moment and the feelings of rage and despair being
felt by so many around one, would make the decision exceedingly difficult. There is a scene in Lawrence of
Arabia (co-written by Robert Bolt) which depicts the Arab Army who come through
a village that had been devastated by the Turkish Army. They pause looking out
at the Turkish troops in the distance:
Is
it not an easy scene to watch any more than the current flow of newsclips from
Ukraine or Gaza. “Not this” is all one can say. Think of the future is all one
can ask. There is a road to Damascus.. In the meantime there is the horror. There
will come an end and there will come some kind of resolution. Whether it will
be sufficient to end the heartache and resentment among the participants to the
carnage, one can only hope. Agreements are tough to maintain. The Good Friday Agreement
of the 10th April 1998 still manage to hold, although on occasions it
may seem fragile. Curiously it is a hovering peace that one hopes will settle
solidly on the ground. So long as talking
continues that should happen. ` I do not know what prejudices have been handed
on to the youth of Northern Ireland during the last 26 years, but the fact that
the current first minister, Michelle O’Neil is from the Sinn Féin
political party, is some
progress towards normalisation.
The
other matter brought up by the dialogue in Dear Octopus is the excuse proffered
for not writing the book or seeking public office “I found that everything I wanted to say had been said by someone else.” Too often have
I found, in reading journals and other publications and listening to broadcasts
and discussions, that much of what I feel deserves attention or consideration,
has been ably and clearly expressed by another with a wider platform and access
to a wider audience. In some instances by a public servant, journalist, writer
or commentator. Quite often amongst my friends and acquaintances, which is
probably why they remain friends and acquaintances. I tend to avoid
confrontation and continued association with people who have opposing and
strongly held views. That would be my loss. Sometimes confrontation can be
instructive and even helpful to clarify or improve one’s own thoughts.
Once, in conversation with some people, I heard one
person remark to another, after that person had expressed an opinion on a
certain matter “A lot of people think that” to which came the response “Oh really?
I must change my view at once”. I don’t think I am quite a contrarian as that,
but perhaps I should change my mind about a lot of things. A damascene moment
is perhaps just around the corner, but in the meantime should I take no
prisoners?
I was listening this morning to
the Today Program on BBC Radio 4 and a couple of members of the House of Lords
were interviewed in relation to the Rwanda Bill now before the House of Lords
for scrutiny, amendments and approval.The bill is the fabrication of the Government in response to the Supreme
Court’s decision against deporting refugees to Rwanda on the basis that there
was insufficient evidence to declare that Rwanda was a safe country. It was drafted
to override the ruling of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom and any legal
pronouncements by the Court of Human Rights.
The apologists for the Rwanda
Bill such as Michael Howard are amazing in their duplicity of thought. Whilst
arguing that Rwanda is a perfectly safe country, and people should have nothing
to fear by being sent there, he firmly believes that the policy is right and
will act as a deterrent to people attempting the journey across the Channel
from France. He added this at the end of his interview on the Today program this
morning.
“After all France is a perfectly safe country… and if people have the option of staying in France
or going to Rwanda it’s a fair bet that they might choose France”
So Rwanda is a safe country, but the prospect of being sent
there is so awful that the risk of being sent there outweighs the risk of
crossing the channel in a rubber dingy. I wish someone could explain that is
more detail.
The other argument put forward by
Lord Howard was that the unanimous decision of the five justices was wrong and
overstepped their role as unelected judges in deciding government policy. The separation
of powers is rightly accepted, but it is for parliament to decide on such
matters and not the judiciary. Parliament is sovereign in all matters. The Divisional
Court had stated that the Rwanda Policy was lawful and this bill is to restore
the status quo that Parliament is sovereign. It is not for unelected Judges to
adjudicate against that, which the government claim is what the Supreme Court
did. Parliament is accountable, they are elected representatives, the Judges
are not. In respect of the separation of powers, in this instance the court has
overstepped the mark.
So what we have is effectively a
constitutional issue relating to conflict of law and legislation or rather argument
as to the interpretation of legislation by the courts. What is legislated by
parliament becomes law. The courts enforce and interpret the legislation with
regard to the law as written in the statues produced by the legislature
together with the already existing common law - at least what little of it
still exists. If the Government thinks that the courts have wrongly interpreted
the law, then it can produce legislation clarifying the position, to better
reflect the intentions of Parliament. Which is what is going on at present.
Before that happens the proposed
legislation must be approved by Parliament, which includes the House of Lords,
although the final say is down to the House of Commons. Fort5unately in this
case, not everyone agrees with the likes of Lord Howard, even though the
majority of the Lords is made up of Conservative Party adherents. There are some ex-conservative ministers who
disagree radically with Lord Howard. Lord Kenneth Clarke being one.
The Rwanda fiasco is the policy
of our present Conservative Government. There is the matter of the separation
of powers – executive, legislative and judicial – but this government’s party majority
in Parliament is such that its policies, no matter how stupid or venal, are
bound to get through. In effect, because of the nature of the system -
Government always being made up from the majority parliamentary party - the
executive and legislative end up being one and the same. So the only other
separate power to scrutinise and balance the workings of the government is the
judiciary, who are, quite rightly, left to be independent. The judiciary ensures the continuance and strength
of the rule of law. Parliament may make the law but it is the judiciary that
has to enforce it and bad law can sometimes be found to actually be contrary to
the rule of law. Hence clarification is sometimes necessary. The Government can
do what it likes up to a point. The judiciary have a duty to make that point to
the government,
What also surprised me about Lord
Howard’s interview was that he kept referring to Parliament being sovereign and
saying elected representatives are the ones who are accountable, as opposed to
judges who are not elected. Parliament is not just the House of Commons, which he
seemed to be implying. The House of Lords is not elected either, yet it is part
of the Parliament. Are the Lords not accountable? Should their views be ignored
as well? Every person is accountable for his/her actions. It doesn’t take a
vote to decide that.
Parliament may be sovereign, but
it too is subject to the rule of law. Legislation based solely on opinion and
not on fact and evidence is a poor basis for creating law. Those politicians
who proudly proclaim to act on their belief have led us into the worst of nightmares
and wars. The not so long ago belief in non-existent weapons of mass
destruction is an instance in point. Deterrence has not worked as an effective
policy since the severity of the Hammurabi Code nearly 4000 years ago. If it
had, the world would be without violence or dishonesty.
Which brings us back to the
Rwanda policy. Deterrence or fiscal necessity. Cheaper to send the refugees
abroad that to have to deal with them in the UK? Either way is expensive. Given
the numbers that are likely to be sent there and the cost involved per individual,
it may be more economic in the long run to let them stay, find employment and
start paying taxes. I know that’s not so simple to do in this day and age by
anyone, let alone a refugee; but, it may be more profitable as time goes by.
In any event, I don’t know, just
expressing an opinion on the options. To
paraphrase Michel Howard, France is a perfectly safe country, if people now had
an option of staying in France or going to Brexit Britain, it’s a safe bet they
might choose France.